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  1. This is complete absurdity, stupidity and humiliation with Chitrali people and humanity. What do you mean exactly by “Mehtar”??
    No more, we are not ignorant. We don’t need any revival. Chitral does not belong to Mehtars, once he ruled it the same way Mughals, British ruled the subcontinent and now its over!!

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  2. Debates are interesting as well as shocking! My respectable elders instead of supporting their arguments with proof and logic are criticizing each other openly and targeting a respectable family. This is unfair!”Authority tends to corrupt and absolute authority corrupts absolutely” is a famous political axiom. Methars in those days were the sole and unquestionable ruler of Chitral. It is possible that they have committed certain mistakes as “to err is human” but it does not mean that we should ignore the services rendered by them. They were the pioneer of education in Chitral and among their other services preservations of our culture and our identity are worth mentioning.So instead of criticizing them we should consider their positive roles which you people have almost ignored.In fact, they were much more better than their counterparts like nawabs and walis etc.So please be united and work for the better of our Chitral.
    Regards
    Irfan Shotkhar, Torkhow.

  3. “I am the eater of the salt of English, will serve them body and soul. Should any enemy (Russia) makes an attempt to pass through this quarter, I will hold the roads and passes with my lion grit until they send me help”.
    These were the beautiful words of our Mehtar. The mehtars were totally selfish for the sake of gaining the blessing of the British. They did cruelity to Chitralis even without realizing that they were their own people. Shuja ul Mulk speeded up the conversion of Ismailis into Sunism after returning from Hajj, an act which was totally against the teachings of Quran and Muhammad (peace be upon him) and the spirit of the Hajj. People come from Hajj and adopt changes in their inner qualities but here it seems brutality had overtaken the then Mehtar’s mind.

  4. Dear Ahmad Ali
    First of all, I condemn your baseless allegation against the Ismailies. You must have to go back to school to learn something specially about Chitral’s history. If you have courage enough and knowledge, please bring up the proofs in support of your allegations. Look your statement, “I forget his name”. You even do not know the man but put such a baseless and useless allegations against a community. This shows your level of knowledge about history. Your knowledge of history is zero. If the Ismailies were trying to bring up an alternative state what about the natives of Kushum village of Mukhow. The Mehtar forced the Dashmaney clan to leave the area and took away their properties by force and handed them over to his loved ones. They were NOT ISMAILIES and still not change their faith. What kind of ridiculous and shameful allegations. Here is another bright example, what about this historical song of Khuda Rahmat of down Chitral. A verse from the song says: “Nashukur bunadam Shukur no aratam tan Chehtarusom, Mehtar Duro ghanitai Ma Balaha dratai shan shotaro sum”. I feel, in fact, I know, this song is a mirror-reflection of the brutality the Mahtar of the time had carried out. So you think this late gentlemen was not an ISLMAILI, he was a SUNNI Muslim, you think he was also trying to get something against the Metars. NO way my friend, you can find these kind of solid proof against Mehtars’ brutality in Chitral’s soil not only in hundreds but thousands.

    Thanks a lot
    sincerely
    Kamran Ali Illahi

  5. Well, as far as marriage, it is not a joke and by tying the knot with daughters of Ismailis, the Mehtars must have seen some political objectives. It is a proven fact that the Mehtars of the time were thought to be highly romantic. They commanded the area with full might besides possessing uncounted for wealth.
    A man marries a woman when she attracts him. You must have heard of the famous story of a Greek woman who was married to a king but fell in love with the prince of Troy. She became a legend as Helen of Troy who toppled two dynasties and went to oblivion. Don’t make fun of those who love someone because love is sacred and a divine relation. Love is blind and those who succeed in getting their beloveds are fortunate. Most of the love stories end in tragedy and if you have gone through this ordeal, you must realize that how life becomes a burden on losing a beloved. It simply kills and life becomes miserable. The Mehtars were fortunate, for which they should be grateful to those who accepted them as their sons-in-law.
    The only thing which touches my heart about these Mehtars is that they always succeeded in getting their beloved one way or the other. In some of the cases, a Mehtar even snatched his beloved from the jaws of a man whom he thought would never do justice to his angel. I am ending with a verse of poem: “A thing of beauty is a joy forever.” If you are in love, snatch her because she belongs to you only. Never put her in the fire or Allah will never forgive you for your weakness because love is strength.

  6. Ahmad ALi, Lahore: The contribution of His Highness Sir Sultan Muhammad Shah Aga Khan III in creation of Pakistan is enough to dispel the impression that Ismailis had even shown interest in a separate state that too in a far-off and remote, backward area like Chitral. They are the most patriotic people and never betrayed any ruler or state. Accusing Ismailis of launching a separate Ismaili state headed by a cleric from Mumbai is rubbish. The Mehtars had done no favour to them and whatever status they enjoyed, it was completely on merit or due to some personal connections. Even today, a large number of Ismailis enjoy very good relations with them.

  7. Ahmad Ali Lahore,, your allegation is baseless and shows your ignorance. Even a shopkeeper in Chitral Bazaar has more knowledge of history than you. You need to read your history again. If there were any traitors at that time then they were the so-called Raja Maharaj and Mahtars like Shujauil Muluk who were more loyal to the British than to their own motherland. People of Chitral were so unfortunate that many of the rulers at that era were the slaves of British. 

  8. @Kamran, yes some of the Ismailis, not all, and I repeat some of the Ismailis, not all, were given tough time by Mehtar Shujaul Mulk in the 1920s. But have you ever thought WHY??
    Let me tell you why! As the Urdu proverb says, ‘taali aik haath sey nahi bachti’. The Ismailis are not angels! When you are a citizen of a country, you have to show some loyalty to that country. In case of the Chitral State, a few Ismailis at that time launched a political agitation under the leadership of a Ismaili cleric from Bombay. I forgot his name. They betrayed the ruler of Chitral and indulged themselves in the political campaign for the Aga Khan State. This campaign was active in those days. So what do you think? Should the Mehtar have welcomed those traitors with flowers?? The punishment for a treason was chopping off the traitors’s head. The real justice would have been chopping their heads off, but there you go, the Mehtar was merciful enough to force them to exile, alive. The decedents of those traitors must be thankful to the Mehtar for his kindness!
    I also like to mention that The Mehtars had very good relations with the Ismailis. Even they married to the daughters of many Ismailis. A large number of Mehtar Aman ul Mulk’s officials were also Ismailis. The Mehtars had no enmity with the Ismaili community. It is very unfortunate that today some people are trying to hide the act of those who campaigned against the Chitral State in the 1920s. Today’s Ismailis have nothing to do with those traitors. All traitors whether Ismaili, Shia or Sunni must be punished!! That’s justice!

  9. Dear editor Chitraltoday.net
    Great and awesome job by your part being done regarding this very important and sensitive issue in Chitral’s history. You have rightly been accommodating every individual’s opinion. No doubt and there is no need of references that the period was totally brutal and unjust and dark. Look almost 85% writers here have declared the period as such with solid and authentic proof.
    Look here Mr Jamshed Kator what he is saying and jumping into conclusion without research saying ‘If the Mehtar did something that was out of the norm for a ruler, please state the Mehtar’s name and who was in the receiving end of the unfair treatment, please provide their names, the date it occurred, the area it occurred and what occurred, if there are supporting documents please provide this. This is a challenge to all our brothers. Please provide proof.”
    Here you go Mr Kator. Are the proofs presented by the commentators not PROOFS, why you are trying to make fun of the Chitrali public by denying and ignoring the most authentic proof. Our honorable educationist, journalist and authors of varies books Dr. Inayatullh Faizi (aS mentioned by Mr. Abid ALI) states in his very famous book (THE WAKHAN CORRIDOR) that “In 1924 the Ismailis of Chitral were given a tough time by the state ruler Shuja ul Mulk who forced them to convert and accept the Sunni creed. Hundreds of thousands of Ismailies fled to Gilgit, Badkshan and Wakhan. They lodged compliants with the political agent and some of their leaders approached the President of Ismalia Council of Bombay. Consequently, an inquiry was conducted by Hopkinsin.” Do you need any other proof or evidence?

  10. I read, re-read the letter and subsequent comments. A large number of participation is encouraging of course; but we should focus on bridging the gaps rather further polarizing the people. Omitting personal remarks and harsh tone of some writers (which is harmful for any purposeful debate) the discussion is good so far. I do not fully agree with the letter writer but I sincerely appreciate his move, which acted as a catalyst in bringing out different opinion about our past; and future prospective.
    On offset let me clear, I too belong to the same tribe to which the letter is about. But be sure of, I am here neither on behalf of Prince Mohiuddin nor anybody else, but I will present my very own views what I believe in, about the subject under discussion.
    For some readers, history might be a boring subject but a bird’s-eye view on history will make our discussion more thoughtful.
    Muhammad Bin Qasim, one of the great generals of Islam, conquered Sindh in 712 AD. Only three years later, he met his tragic end at the hand of Khalifa Sulayman; who arrested the former and tortured him to death purely on political grounds.
    Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni is known as a greatest Muslim warrior; he died on 30th April 1030 AD. Firdausi (the Homer of the east) who wrote ‘Shahanama’ lived in his court. Al-Beruni (writer of Tarikh-ul-Hind) accompanied Mahmud to India. Mahmud raided Hindustan seventeen times in a short span (1000-1027 AD). He made all the raids in the guise of Jihad. But it is a historical fact that “he was a greedy man for gold. He came, burnt, killed, plundered, captured and went.”
    Jalal-ud-din Khalji founded the Khalji dynasty on 13th June 1290. He was very humble and sometimes showed very kindness even to the enemies who fought against him. He appointed Ala-ud-Din-his nephew and son-in-law as a governor of Karah. According to a famous writer “he (Jalal-uddin) loved Ala-ud-din as his own son and was prepared to do anything for him.” One day, Jalal-ud-din went to meet his son-in-law; that day Ala-ud-din treacherously killed him. Jalal-ud-din died while crying “Ala-ud-din wretch! What have you done?” Alau-ud-din acceded to the throne on 1296 AD without any regrets.
    Timur (1336-1405) became the king of Samarkand in 1369 AD. He would love to be known as ghazi and mujahid; he was Hafiz-ul-Quran. He invaded Hindustan to “purify the land from polytheism”. On the other hand, “on Tamerlane’s distant expeditions, where his purpose was only to loot and strike terror, he ordered atrocities that are still remembered. At Eşfahān (Isfahan), in Iran, which had rebelled after surrendering in 1387, he massacred 70,000 people and constructed towers of their skulls. In 1398 at Delhi, in India, he had 100,000 Hindu inhabitants slaughtered and razed the city.”
    Muhai-ud-din Muhammad Aurangzeb was the third son of Emperor Shah Jahan and one of the most pious Mughal emperors, who forbade drinking, banned prostitution, gambling and obscene singing. But this was nobody but Aurangzeb himself who arrested his old father on 8th June 1658 and kept him in prison for eight years till death; treacherously imprisoned his brother Murad on 25th June 1658; and paraded his own brother and Shah Jahan favorite son Dara Shikoh in most un-dignified manner in the streets of Delhi on 29th August 1659; suppressed Hindus and Sikhs, demolished hundreds of Hindu’s temples; and hanged the ninth of the Sikh gurus Tegh Bahadur for refusing to embrace Islam 1n 1675.
    In a nutshell, Ala-ud-din’s famous quote “Kingship knows no kinship” rightfully explicates the mentality of the rulers and kings and the prevailing customs of those eras.
    I intentionally skipped the stories related to Genghis Khan, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Slobodan Milosevic etc. and only highlighted the historical facts about only well-acclaimed Muslim rulers.
    Time has changed now, so is the ruling practices and system. But the rule of the survival of the fittest still prevails in this planet. Suppressing peoples by hook or crook, prolonging monarchy, dictatorship, president ship, premiership etc. by any means, killing innocent people for no reason still exists in one way or the other.
    Give me a break! Two wrongs do not make a right. I do to want to justify any injustices or act of brutality (if any) by any ruler; in this case Mehtar of Chitral.
    I just want to make a sense that “what the Mehtar of Chitral did in 18th or early 19th century” was not more than “prevailing custom of the time” to keep the people united and to avoid internal or external threats.
    “It’s Good, It’s Bad, and It’s Everywhere”. We should condemn the bad but it is also our moral duty to appreciate the good. We may or may not like but it is a fact that there are many respectable names in the royal family who are playing leading roles in Chitral ‘politics, culture, tourism, sports, and social sectors etc. Downplaying their role will serve nobody; and it is neither fair nor easy!
    Let us promote brotherhood. Let us stand for the common good of Chitral!
    My father is a zealous voter of Prince Mohiuddin; but I am not so impressed by ‘prince politics’. We can criticize Prince Mohiuddin on political grounds, but one thing for sure I know, he is a kind person and socially very active and closed to his common voters. He would usually pay visits to the remote areas (where other politicians could hardly be seen), mingles with his voters, shares their happiness, and consoles them in grieves. He would meet the poor, bows to hear them, consoles them, gives weightage to their issues and assures to solve them. For me this could be one of the many reasons of why prince Mohiuddin is a main player in Chitral politics so far.
    Abraham Lincoln used to say “The ballot is stronger than the bullet”. The sad reality is that we as a nation never used the strength of ballot in a proper way. The politicians know very well about our psyche and our division on pathetic issues based on tribe, caste, sect and area.
    I am sorry to say that, we could not produce a single politician who could genially defend our cause at provincial, national or international forum. In six decades of Pakistan history, there is no Chitrali speaker in provincial or national assembly; no interior minister, foreign minister or defense minister; let alone the thought of a Chitrali chief minister, prime minister or a president. I know about minister of tourism in the past and incumbent provincial minister; after sixty years this is not a big deal at all.
    Unless and until we will not change our attitude as a voter, we should not either expect for producing able and competent politicians. We should make it crystal clear to our incumbent representatives and any would be politician that we believe in service not in mere rhetoric slogans. We hate the irresponsible blame games for cheap publicity and to hide one’s own inefficiency and incompetency. We disapprove corruption, favoritism and nepotism.
    Let us forget our bitter memories associated to our past. Let us ignore our differences and focus on our similarities. Let us not to indulge in parochial issues. Let us realize our real strength as a voter. Let us convey a clear message to the politicians that if they were able to help us in materializing our dream for a MODEL CHITRAL; they are our “khadeem” otherwise we will show them ‘back benches’ by ballots but not the bullets!

  11. In other words, ignoring means surrender. A wise man/woman must avoid such things as it is not a good habit. It is a tactic to hide one’s own failure. If some people have finally come to the conclusion that ignoring their critics is the best way to take revenge, they are absolutely wrong. A person should have the quality to give a tit-for-tat response to his/her opponents. If you give up in the middle of the road, you have to accept you are guilty and have nothing to say.
    Dr Inayatullah Faizi, an authentic name, who also enjoys very good relations with the Mehtars, has written epitaphs for some of them, lauding their services on several occasions. But even then, he has accepted that the Ismailis were brutally tortured by the Mehtars. As a result, some of them fled their houses for the sake of their religion.
    I would strongly recommend the readers to have a look at the thesis of Dr Faizi, which gives a complete picture of the matter. It is also a fact that the clerics were also used by the royals.

  12. Mr Wasim, yes you rightly said that one’s writings reflect his/her mindset and it is truly reflecting your mindset. You have called your own ancestors as slaves of Mehtar which I don’t consider to be true. They were those unfortunate people who lived their lives under the bad governance of that era like many Pakistanis who are living under the bad governance of today’s government. Would you like if your children tell others that my father was a slave of Zardari? If not then think before you use the same words for your own forefathers. Stating that slavery is in the blood of people of lower Chitral also reflects your mindset. It reflects your hatred towards other people of Chitral. Saying that we are more educated and enlightened people also reflects how some people are slaves of their own ego. It is the worst kind of slavery which some of you are going through. Education is not just holding a degree but the greatest education is simplicity, love, tolerance, sharing, gratitude and forgiveness. It is encoded in your DNA which unfortunately some of the so-called educated and enlightened minds don’t possess it.

    • Dear Afzal Aman, let us not waste our time with people who have devoted their time to spreading hate among the people of Chitral. Let us just ignore them!

  13. A man who still votes for PPP due to the charismatic personalities of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Benazir Bhutto despite bearing all the brunt of corruption, lawlessness, price hike, is worst than a slave. The party which has failed to deliver is exploiting the masses in the name of those leaders who gave their lives for the country, especially democracy. They must be rejected as the incumbent leadership knows nothing about public issues except stuffing their coffers. I would say if you are still a jiyala of PPP, you are a salve or living in a fools’ paradise. Better mend your ways and learn to be a human being who cares for other fellow beings and not all the times harp the tune of Mehtars. Dear guys, I really take pity on you because you still do not know that the world has become a global village but you are still busy in flattering, which will be of no use. Life is too short make best use of it.

  14. @Afzal Aman and Rehmat Wali: Well, finally some humble disciples of the royals have come out. Your writings reflect your mindset that you will never be able to say anything before a prince because you people’s job is to blindly follow them. People like you could not be changed how hard you try. We salute Gul Jee for at least exposing these people.

  15. Gul Gee is right that particularly the Ismaili sect was being targeted by Mehtars. Dr. Inayatullah Faizi says in his thesis The Wakhan Corridor page 117, “In 1924, the Ismailis of Chitral were given a tough time by the state ruler Shujagh ul Mulk, who forced them to convert and accept the Sunni creed. Hundreds of thousands of Ismailis fled to Gilgit, Badkhshan and Wakhan. They lodged complaint before the political agent and some of their leaders approached the President of Ismailis Council Bombay. Consequently, an inquiry was conducted by Hopkinsin in 1925, and the Mehtar was directed to abstain from such atrocities towards his subject.”

  16. This debate hasn’t ended yet. Mr. Writer you should be ashamed of yourself. Your crop of hatred is ready and is giving results. A friend is talking about the independence of Mastuj. Mastuj was part of the Upper Chitrali kingdom (Mastuj-Yasin). It was fully merged into lower Chitral during the reign of Mehtar Shujaul Mulk and Governors were appointed by the Mehtar. The District Mastuj was established during the reign of Mehtar Saifur Rehman who made Chitral constitutional monarchy and introduced democracy and gave all his powers to elected house in 1953.
    There are good people and there are bad people too. One must acknowledge those who did good and criticize those who did nothing, no matter what their social status is. But critcizing people just because of their social and noble status is not fair.
    What have you done for Chitral? What is your contribution, the answer is zero. Sitting in cities and talking about Chitral, you don’t know anything about Chitral. Chitral is a peaceful place where all segments of society live peacefully we don’t know from where have you learned these new concepts.
    We being Muslims and Chitralis strongly believe in the tribal system and respect the nobility. Even the holy Prophet (peace be upon him) used to respect nobility who belonged to the Pagan Arab tribes saying that they carry a noble blood. The Prophet of Islam was born in a noble family and his family honor is acknowledged in holy Quran as well.
    We are Muslims and Chitralis, we have our systems, please don’t try to destroy Chitral’s social system and make us communists like you. We are happy with the lives, and we are happy with the royal family, the nobility, their eminence the Syeds and Pirs. All these households have never harmed anyone but poor people have benefited from them. Shame on the writer and his supporters, definitely they all are representing a certain mindset.
    A friend called me and said that “there are untouchables in Chitral” who are protesting against the nobles in Chitral Today. I couldn’t understand what he said, but after reading this letter and comments again, I was shocked. You people have ruined the image of Chitral, Chitralis and especially the poor people.

  17. @Afzal Islamabad, I understand your frustration on Mehtar and their families since probably your father/forefathers were also their slaves or so-called doing Ghulami of these Mehtars. But, having said that it does not give you any right to generalize your idea of genetic inheritance of slavery in people of lower Chitral. Currently, Pakistan as a whole is going through bad governance but that does not mean that we are slaves of Zardari and his government. There were many other good leaderships under whom our country had flourished. It’s just a matter of good/bad leaders. Similarly, there were many good/bad Mehtars. I am personally not a great fan of that era but there were some who have done many good work for Chitral. Respecting them and recognizing them for their efforts doesn’t in any way suggest that those people are still under their slavery. On the other hand, by reading your comments I get an idea that you too are a slave of your own ego which I think is a worst kind of slavery. Come out of it brother, sooner the better. Also, an educated and enlightened mind would never try to put down people and generalize his views. The greatest education is in simplicity: love, respect, tolerance, sharing, gratitude, forgiveness. It’s not complex or elaborate.

  18. @M Wali, Mastuj: Look dear M Wali Khan I am talking of awareness, education and the life style of people. The people of subdivision Mastuj are the best people I’ve ever seen and I am proud to be a “biyartek”. They never complain against a prince or any other influential person rather they believe in retaliation. As long as the small problems are concerned, these are part of life. Be always ready to face them with open arms or they will haunt you as long as you are alive. You cannot guarantee that a person living in Islamabad is all happy while the one in Yarkhoon is in trouble. Do not make it a habit that life is so cruel. I’m fed up of it because it completely depends on you that how you take it. Look at some of artists who could be seen owning their failure to the film industry of Pakistan. But there are people like Ali Zafar, Adnan Sami Khan who are always hit whether they are in Pakistan, India, Gulf or any other part of the world. It has nothing to do with the backwardness of the area or the country.

    • dear Mr. Junaid

      We are proud of you because you are the only and puritanical in Chitrali soil, defending and still not defeat-able using the free govt. electronics equipment, time and other resources, making Halal earnings (Raaq-e-Halal). You got appeared in this discussion almost 50%.Thanks for all that this is the manner, track and path that Chitralis will go ahead. We will pray for your success, long life and for more energy, this is the way that our Prophet PBUH urged us to do. Use the govt.times whatever you can and use all free resources whatever you can because this is also a kind of JIHAD. And at the end of the month, you will be able to get Halal salary. You are an unmixed, flawless, genuine and unalloyed guy. Keep it up with full zeal. And as usual, come to the workplace late and make more Halal money. No problem people can wait for their works they are not important. Your time and your motives are valuable and essential. We saute you back thinking.

      Yours Sincerely

      Salman Ahmad Guptai

  19. Mr Afzal, yes it is hard to make people believe how we the people of Mastuj are aware of our rights and have been snatching them as you say. My friend, we should tell the people that in those old days of the ‘brutal’ Mehtars we the people of Mastuj had our own province with its governor but when the cruel Mehtars were removed from the scene we were even deprived of our district status. Since then we have been crying to get back even the lost district. Today elders of Mastuj have to travel to Chitral and sleep in dirty hotels for days before they can get their papers like domicile certificates of their children signed. Same is the case with other matters. I think you are one of the day-dreamers but when you wake from your sleep and visit Mastuj from Islamabad one day, mostly in summer, you will know the reality. The rest is history.

  20. The gentleman (Fardad Ali Shah) has narrated a fact as people in lower Chitral, especially Lotkoh tehsil, are still living in subjugation of the royals. But he is unable to understand whether it is genetic inheritance or they feel comfortable this way. I was discussing the concept of princeship in Chitral with a friend a short while ago. I questioned him why these people who have everything in their access are behaving like this, he simply replied: “Ghulami is in their genes as this area is still under the influence of Mehtars”. But I want to add here that the concept of a “prince” in subdivision Mastuj has vanished. It no longer exists in the minds of people there, because they are educated and much enlightened, knowing that they have equal rights and living in a free society. Everybody in Mastuj is a prince of his own. They know how to fight for their rights.

    • Don’t fool yourself, Mr.Afzal! There’s no ”ghulami” anywhere in Chitral. The aristocrats and noble tribes, composing the majority population of Chitral, will always stand by the Mehtar, no matter how hard you try to discourage them! By using such words for the aristocrats of Chitral, you are actually giving ‘some message’ about your own self! Well, nothing to worry about; we know it’s a genetic thing! Take care!

      • @Junaid Saleh Hayat: Don’t try to apply these tricks on me if you have nothing to say. Muster some courage to face the criticism instead of adopting a reconciliatory approach which may help clear the spoiled image of the Mehtars. The history of the Mehtars is like an open book which you are trying to hide like an incompetent lawyer, pleading his case before a court of law despite knowing that defeat is his destiny. I standby whatever I have said about certain people who are still under subjugation of the royals. This is high time to get rid of these royals or there is no solution to the problems faced by people like M. Wali and many others like him. Had they been even a little awareness among them, they would have never welcomed the newly-crowned prince as the days are gone when he used to rule by hook or by crook. And for your kind information, I am an Ayubian and you may challenge someone else but be careful while responding to my comments, right?

        • Mr.Afzal! I am glad to know that you are an Ayubian (graduate of Ayub Medicle College), and yeah, I must be very careful while responding to your comments, Your Highness!!

          • My dear Junaid Saleh Hayat the great – the grandson of His Highness Sir Nasirul Mulk – it will take time for you to learn the art of microscopic analysis of issues pertaining to human relations. Passing sarcastic remarks is nothing but like searching the diamond in a muddy lake. Lennon spent 20 years in a British library to have an understanding of divine messages and then gave communism to the world. I was a postgraduate student when you were just admitted to Sayurj Public School Chitral. It’s not an easy task my dear, so keep the pace slow.

  21. Some Chitralis with fake names have very rightly stated the injustices and tricks played with them by the Shahzadagans of Chitral. They are very true that the survival of the royal family of Chitral depends upon the Ismaili community! The sectarian clashes in the 80s, oh yes, they were also done by the Shahazdagans! The mullahs who threw those Ismailis into the Chitral river were not mullahs actually, they were Shahzadas! The people who had burned the Ismaili hostel were also led by the royal family! The vehicles of the AKRSP were burnt by Mehtar Aman-ul-Mulk! Oh, these Shahzadas, they have nothing else to do and their only job is to divide and rule in Chitral. They are behind every conspiracy against the innocent people of Chitral. As the recent news published in ”Express Tribune” confirms, “hundreds of Chitrali women who have been sold to Punjabis in the name of marriage” are actually done by the Mehtar Shuja ul Mulk! The royal family is alive today only because of the votes of the Ismailis! The school of modern education constructed by Mehtar Nasir ul Mulk was also a conspiracy against the poor people of Chitral! The people of Chitral can no more be fooled by the royal family. After getting educated, they have now understood that the reason behind establishing schools in Chitral at a time when the rulers of neighbouring States were treating their people like dogs was an attempt by the ”zaalim” Mehtar to keep the poor Chitral in the dark-age!!
    Shame on you, fellow Chitralis! Shame on your education that teaches you to lie and write rubbish on the internet!

    • Mr. Junaid Saleh Hayat! Really very brief and precise explanation. “Neem Mullah Khatra-e-Jan”. I think some of our friends are commenting without knowing the true history of Mehtars dynasty in Chitral. Criticizing anyone is very easy but getting follow-up is very difficult.
      I will say that if Chitral is known on the map of the world, it is because of the works of Shahzadagans. It’s the Shahzada who brings Pervaiz Musharaf to Chitral, who gave global coverage to Chitral, and Chitral became famous. Tourists all over the world are visiting Chitral and helping in generating revenue for its people only because of Shahzadas. We haven’t seen anyone in front raising a voice in favor of Chitral except Shahzadagans.
      My friends be realistic, don’t go for fake things. Live in real world.

      • Mr. Fardad, you should take you words back because they were the obstacles to the development of Chitral. Gilgit is the best example for us where we can see huge development due to the broadmindedness of its past rulers, the Mirs, who were too open-mined and welcomed the AKDN and other NGOs for further progress. But here in Chitral, the Mehtars and Mullahs have been playing double game with the citizens. Both have their own interests, and the poor people have been sandwiched between these two groups. These people have been claiming that they are for peace but in reality they are not. Extremism is the product of these people. Ziaul Haq pushed up such people, especially the Mullahs, for his own interest and divided Pakistan into different mindsets. People like Z.A Bhutto, Salman Taseer, Shahzad Bhatti and numerous others fell victims to this extremism.

  22. Mr. Salman read my comment thoroughly before jumping to any conclusion. Yes, you are right recently Mahtar of the castle, not of the people of Chitral, visited the mausoleum of the great Pir of Khurasan Nasir e Khusrao in Garum Chashma, trying to pave the way for Mr. Mohiuddin by pleasing the people of the area.

  23. Dear Editor

    First of all, I appreciate your efforts to provide us such a nice website to discuss issues and remain in touch with our birthplace and world around us. We all Chitralis salute you and your team.
    Now coming to the topic, I would like to say there is no distrust, two opinions or any uncertainty that the period and the rule of the Metars in Chitral was brutal. Now, if we try to tell the truth, some people start crying that it is not authentic, as Mr Atiq has mentioned.
    I totally agree with Mr Sohail Khan that “It is only because of the Ismaili community that the so-called Shahzadas have survived in politics otherwise they would have been nowhere.”
    Mr Shahzada always try to divide the Chitrali community on the occasion of elections. Now because he is too old he is trying to get shelter under the umbrella of a dictator. Recently, he advised the so-called Mehtar to visit the area of a particular community to practice the rule of his ancestors “Divide and rule” and look the so-called Mehtar visited the tomb of one of the Pirs of the area. He never visited the tomb before and never recognized the the people of the area. This kinds of trick the family always played in the Chitrali history. We are no more slave now.

    Salman Ahmad Guptai

  24. Yes, dear that book is enough to show the mirror but it is quite interesting that these people which are salt in flour declare all such books unauthentic which are bitter to them. And they always try to discourage all those as seen by Shahzad Nadeem Chitral’s response to the article by Ghulam Sarwar Sahrai. It was totally in defence of a particular family.

  25. Dear Qaiser Azam
    I am so sorry to mention that your comments on this discussion are so nasty, shameful and totally out of context. You contributed zero on this subject except insulting the people of Chitral especially the youth saying that (indirectly) the passing of CSS in Chitral and going abroad is also blessed by the royal family. Remember if they have helped you in passing the Matric exam or arranging UDC employment, this is not for everyone in Chitral. I am proud of my Chitrali brothers and sisters for their ability, trustfulness and positive role in the society.
    Chitralis are nowadays contributing in a good faith in the society like a good businessmen, excellent administrators, educationist etc in various institutions from USA to Dubai, China, Maxico, England and other countries. These are not due to SHAHZADAGANS of Chitral.
    Dear friend one more request to you that you should study the Book of Mr. Geoffery Moorhouse ‘The Frontier’ as mentioned bu Mr. Atiq Ahmed which is about Chitral’s history.

    Khalid Khan

  26. After long time I have come through chitraltoday,and am happy to see the debate on an open letter to our MNA. Every person has the right to share his opinion but the debate should be related to the topic not insulting each other. If we study the history we will come to know that absolute autocracy or kingship were not popular among the peoples. They always used to give priority to their personal interest exploiting the resources of the states. Same situaon was in Chiral. As this era is the era of education and enlightenment,so every person knows wha is good for them. Last but not the least we don do not want that period where a human was treated like an animal.

  27. First of all, we have to understand the situation when Shahzada Mohiuddin raised the topic. It was raised because of some reasons why government was avoiding to allocate funds for our district. It was a voice for the rights of Chitrali people. His demand never meant never to bring that time again because it is possible! So don’t worry about that and please don’t mention hard words for each others. Because it will create distance between Chitrali youth. We are all brothers from the day when Pakistan was created. If we will repeat the dark history that was so different during which things went so wrong as there was no education, it will bring us no good. Today when we are all educated, what are we doing? We are trying to repeat mistakes committed centuries back and giving a very wrong impression to the youth . If we start writing these kinds of subjects, surely we will create differences among the youth.
    I will request every educated elder brother and sister to write about something unique and positive that can motivate our youth towards right direction otherwise we will remain stuck in these kinds of useless topics.

    Afzal Syed

  28. Wow, a nice debate had been going on which I was totally unaware of. But better late than never, I would like to share my views on our bitter history.
    Geoffery Moorhouse wrote in his book, To the Frontier: “But the practice of selling Kho women, proverbial for their beauty, in Peshawar, Kabul and Badhkshan was formerly recognized as a legitimate source of revenue, and made a great resort of slave dealers. Of recent years, however, the market for slaves has become circumscribed, and the system is no limited to the sale of girl children to the harems of Kabul, Badakhshan and a few other territories”.
    In 1885, Mehtar Amanul Mulk entered into a pact with the British Government for strengthening his kingship in Chitral. The general public of Chitral was pushed into the dark period through double slavery – to the British and Mehtar of the time. Unbearable taxes were imposed on them.
    Let’s have a look on the wording of the pact: “I am the eater of the salt of English will serve them body and soul. Should any enemy (Russia) makes attempt to pass through this quarter, I will hold the roads and passes with my lion grit until they send me help”.
    Chitral passed through an age of brutality which we can’t deny. Only Mehtar Sher Afzal Khan was the man who we cannot forget as he was not only against the red people but also didn’t act upon the policy of divide and rule of the British, which was imposed by them. He thought that the people of Chitral should manage the affairs of the state without outside interference.

  29. Dear Mohsin,

    This subject should not close till GJ responds to the comments on his letter. One of my friends was arguing that the royals of Chitral have given more respect even to the commoners in every gathering. Yes sure the royals are more social and more powerful even today. Let us compare the commoners and the royals. Why people of Chitral like or prefer the royals even today. Because the commoners even hate themselves (the commoners) even when some of them pass the civil services exam or in good position go abroad like GJ is settled in Canada, or want to prefer to settle in Islamabad. They don’t want to stay with the commoners in their area, though Shahzada Sikandar and Shazada Sirajul Mulk will never prefer to go abroad and settle there, because they want to stay here and they like the commoners more than the commoners.
    If one of the commoners’ son is selected to a higher post, first he will try to save his job, the mindset of these people is still not ready to accept the commoners, be realistic if a man is going to live abroad it means he says goodbye to his own family, how you expect of such people to serve a commoner when he does not want to stay with his own family.
    I am sure GJ will hide himself from the commoners even in Canada, in the fear that one day they will beg some favour from him. If a man cannot serve the commoner he does not have the right to say something on their behalf.
    In the last election, Sardar AC in his speech in Booni declared that he would fight even for the rights of a ‘Cheermozh’, but the fact is that there is no Cheermozh in whole of Chitral today; therefore, Shahzada Mohiuddin won the election and Sardar AC lost the good chance to reach the assembly only because of such a cheap slogan.
    When someone criticizes the history, they should blame their grandfathers, not the history itself, because the grandfathers were not able to do something good, therefore, the royals always exploited them. Also remember there were a lot of able people from the commoners who gained respect and were also allotted lands by the Mehtars.
    I am accepting the hold of royalship in politics of Chitral, you can see in PPP Shazada Ghulam Mohiddin and Shahzada Nisar, in Muslim League Shahzada and his sons, in Tehrik Insaaf, newcomers like Shahzada Zia and Shahzada Fakhrul Mulk where you go man oh there is only one party Jamaat Islami which has no hold of the royalship so shake hands with the Jamaat to eliminate them otherwise you have no chance.
    I would say to GJ come on man fight here for the commoners from the plattform of Jamaat-e-Islami and try to win the next coming election.

    • The way you have tried to present your thoughts and used terminologies don’t suit this forum. It’s only because of the Ismaili community that your Shahzadaz (princes) have survived in politics otherwise they would have been nowhere. They also cashed in on the 1982 event. Some people in the community have also started believing that this event must have been designed by the same family. Because they are the sole beneficiary of that event even today.

  30. AOA,

    One of my friends suggested that I should read this post. The discussion has somewhat ended with grudges. Why don’t we just let the past to be in the shelves. The Chitralis are now more educated than ever before. Let majority to decide, what they want to become in future. Respect each other, what we Chitralis always do.
    It took me more than an hour to read out the post (including comments). The only thing I have concluded is that this is a very positive development. Everybody here cares about Chitral.
    Love you All! my Bros.

    Mohsin Chitrali

  31. I have not seen the rule of Mehtars but heard from my grandfather that the period was brutal for the common people. But the co-called royal families and their cronies used to enjoy everything. Now as the wealth of these families have almost exhausted and the common people’s living standard is improving, these royal families cannot digest it.I think these people should now realize that their rule is over.

  32. I would like to share a good news with fellow Chitralis as our friend Gul Jee, who had mysteriously gone missing for the last two months, has finally been tracked down safe and sound. We all had a sigh of relief after seeing a message written by GJ to a local website. We were quite worried after his mysterious disappearance. We thought you might be seeking political asylum in Canada with a fear of Prince Mohiuddin. The way you went in oblivion was not right. We are anxiously waiting to hear from you as everybody in Chitral thinks that you have failed to face a slight opposition….! Come on GJ, muster some courage, pick up the pen and strike again while iron is hot or everybody from Charun Oveer must seal his lip. It is a real challenge so break the shackles!

  33. @Afzal: Thank you very much for the appreciation, sir! But keep your nice suggestions in your pocket!! I am representing none, but myself. Please, don’t be angry on people who oppose your beliefs. All of us should have the courage to support what is right and oppose what is wrong. Gul Jee ran away, because he knew he was wrong!!

  34. @Junaid Saleh Hayat: Junaid Khan Katoor tu hei mera hero number one, believe me you could become a very good adviser on diplomacy affairs to the Mehter of Chitral or Prince Mohiuddin. Better late than never, pls don’t be angry on people who wanna express their views on issues of national importance. At least you should not insist to close the topic as you did a very good job in defending the Katoors, and they should be proud of you. A true man will not surrender as Gul Jee did out of fear. Don’t know where the poor GJ will be hiding like fox. What about my friend Birbal (fake Jalil), he is a perfect choice to be elevated to the position of a senior flatterer to the Mehter of Chitral. I know him. He is a nice man but not so brave and is always remain afraid of molvis to the extent that he can intrude into Afghanistan in fear of the molvis. Anyway, jokes apart, you both are wonderful guys!

  35. History has the tradition of its own for experiencing many forms of political systems in the world or in any part of it. World has witnessed political or tribal setups from leaderships of almost local level to dynasties of very huge caliber with very vast kingdoms.Then gradually it saw democratic republics in major parts of the world still leaving some dynastic rulers/kings to exist for experience of the later generation. The present era is mostly the era of large democratic govts. Let’s wait and see which form of govt is to happen next and when and where in the world. In my view, time has not come for such changes in the political setup of the world for moving towards dynastic rules again: neither can such dynasties survive detaching themselves from financially and militarily strong national govts. The fate of Chitral is also subject to this political change on world basis. It is however obvious that it will be very difficult to avert the change if that comes on its proper time and turn, regardless of who would be able to hold the reign ……..in Chitral??? No need, therefore, at present to quarrel on that or criticize Shahzada Mohiuddin, the MNA.